Andy Stanley

Check out this story from The Hill  “Cops devised escape plan for lawmaker at town hall.” The story is about Congressman McCarthy’s recent health care reform town hall and the plan to evacuate the Congressman should anything have happened.

I have always assumed that this takes place but it is interesting to hear a report of it.  Obviously when having such a large public event you run the risk of something going terribly wrong and it is great that our law enforcement are prepared for worst case senarios.

Congressman McCarthy

First, hats off to Congressman McCarthy, his staff, event volunteers and the thousands of people who showed up last night.  It was a great opportunity for people to listen, speak and be heard.  From my perspective, as someone who has been a part of numerous public hearings and town halls where only a handful show up, it is inspiring to see so many people willing to participate in a policy-related forum.  As with the Tea Parties, my hope is that this interest and willingness to participate did not evaporate when the attendees passed through the exit.  There are meetings every week where decisions are made that impact the quality of life of local residents.  Many of these meetings go on without much attention from the press or the public.  I truly believe that if just a fraction of those who attended last night continue to engage at the local level, we as a community would all benefit.

Norman Rockwell’s Freedom of Speech from his Four Freedoms paintings

The roundup:

Nick over at Facenews.org reports “The overall temperament of the Bakersfield town hall meeting on health care reform was mostly well behaved. There were few moments calling for McCarthy’s calmest tone, as only a couple of people jumped up and spoke out of turn.” 

Also be sure to check out his pre-town hall video featuring a very suspicious looking squirrel.

Great to see former BakCal reporter, now BakersfieldExpress.com reporter James Geluso at the event.  Here is his report.

James writes, “At times the meeting felt more like a rally than a town hall.  Angry tirades drew applause, and the angrier they were, the more applause they drew.”

Steven Mayer at BakCal has a report here, while the BakCal front page shows us the angry.  (Photo 2 of 9 here is on the print front page with headline “NO THANK YOU!”.)

And I would be remiss to not acknowledge BakCal’s discovery of Planet Stanley.  The planet’s existence is not widely known, but it is rumored to be sparsely populated, painfully lacking in natural resources and stubborn in its strong anti-civility stance.  Fortunately, I have been in contact with their ambassador and I am assured that they are ardent supporters of civil behavior and even politeness and kind acts from time to time.  What the Planet Stanleyians are less receptive to are misguided attempts to correct problems that don’t exist by hoping and praying that the unwashed hordes will find within themselves the strength not to hoot and holler. 

Welcome to Planet Stanley, we hope you enjoy your stay.

The Stanleyians join the BakCal in their desire for folks to mind their manners, but the honest citizens of this humble planet just had to correct the record when the paper trotted out four examples of misconduct which were both 1) more complex than they simply stated and 2) giving the distinct impression of angry mobs roaming the countryside.  (Of course the Stanleyians were very surprised to find BakCal capture one of these roaming mobs on the front page of, as they described, the daily pamphlet.)

The BakCal found it amusing to juxtapose my harangue against civility with Rep. Moran’s (D) town hall in Reston, VA. So here is some video.  And another.  WSJ report here. NYT report here.  More videos here too. Or watch the whole thing here.

Above is Congressman Moran’s town hall on 8/25/09.  Right before it spiraled into chaos I guess.

A few things gleaned from these sources: activist Randall Terry was there to disrupt and after he was removed, things calmed down; Organizing for America (the DNC “grassroots” arm) was out in full force handing out their printed signs and hand-made signs; former DNC Chair Howard Dean was on stage with Rep. Moran and this all took place 20 miles from D.C..  Rep. Moran was so suspicious of one detractor that he had his identification checked before he could ask a question.  The man was a local and the Congressman later apologized.

The New York Times leads with “Did anyone think that a highly publicized health care town hall within easy driving distance of Washington would not draw a massive display of Astroturf?” 

The bottomline is that if any town hall in America were to fail, this would have been it - easily accessible to special interest groups’ recruits just there to shout down the other side and hosted by strong supporters of the bill, drawing even more intensely passionate counter-arguers. Instead,  it ended up 95% civil, just 5% chaos.  But those are strictly Planet Stanley numbers.

Congressman McCarthy, Health Care, Politics

Tonight is our local turn at experiencing the healthcare town hall cultural phenomenon and much like the Tea Party I expect a large turnout.  Congressman Kevin McCarthy, (R) CA-22, is hosting the forum at California State University Bakersfield’s Icardo Center which can seat up to 3,800.  As a longtime associate and former employee on his staff, I know that the Congressman will be very appreciative of the comments he will receive and give his honest and sincere views on the issues.

In Bakersfield we have a Republican/ Democrat registration split of 45%/ 36%.  Even among our Decline to State and Democrat voters, there are many with conservative leanings so we should expect the vast majority at tonight’s Town Hall to be opposed to the creation of a new $1,000,000,000 government entitlement program while jobs are being lost and taxes and fees continue to increase.  What I don’t expect to see is any kind of problem from our residents. (Wait, we are supposed to fear the angry mob, right?)

Today’s Bakersfield Californian has an editorial calling for civility at tonight’s event.  It is titled “Prescription for healthy debate: respect, civility” but might as well read “Heading to the town hall? Beware the angry mob.”

They cite problems at recent town halls held by Rep. Lamar Smith (R), Rep. Charlie Gonzalez (D), Rep. Rob Andrews (D) and Rep. Mark Kirk (R).  Of course a limited review shows that at Rep. Smith’s town hall, the problems were caused by Joel Benavente, a trouble making heckler who was detained by police after the event.  No angry mob here.  And at Rep. Gonzalez’ town hall, the good Congressman started the meeting by having a powerpoint presentation of George Washington’s Rules of Civility and then as the San Antonio Express-News reports:

“At one point, John Hall, 38, a self-described libertarian, addressed Gonzalez by announcing that he plans to run against the congressman next year. Gonzalez quickly responded, “And I’m intent on beating you. What’s your question, big boy?””

Congressman Gonzalez
People to Congressman respect: required
Congressman to People respect: optional

In this case it would have been accurate for our local newspaper’s editorial to explain that as an elected representative, Rep. Gonzalez was blatantly disrespectful of his constituents and that if a Congressman in Bakersfield, California ever said “What’s your question, big boy?” we could probably expect similar shouts of protest.

Congressman Andrews
the right way to do it

Here is an account of Rep. Andrews’ town hall.  Summary: There were passionate people on both sides, signs were handed out as people came in, some people disagreed with the message and either ripped them or put NO in front of Thank You but in the end the Congressman was respectful and the meeting ended without punches.  From the article:

“To his credit, Representative Rob Andrews handled himself well. He never lost his patience, and he constantly called on the crowd to allow everyone to speak, whether for or against the plan. He also spoke of a willingness to listen to all ideas on healthcare reform. He conducted himself with class unlike many of his house colleagues…”

Congressman Kirk
set up second meeting to accomodate consituents
repeat with me: Democracy is good

 Here is an accountof Rep. Kirk’s meeting.  Basically the Congressman didn’t get a big enough room and some people were turned away.  He then did the right thing and scheduled another town hall to accomodate anyone who wishes to express their opinion.  How is that a cautionary tale about the evils of the angry mob?  This is an example of the beauty of representative government.  You, the representative, should listen to the people you serve and treat them with respect.

Oh, and this too: “Police Capt. Pecora said despite the strong opinions, orderly behavior ruled the day. “There was no lawlessness,” he said.”

Of course this collection of facts flies in the face of the Californian’s editorial view that the empassioned masses have trouble controling themselves in a town hall setting.  If it is true that these groups have in fact been relatively civil, filled with individuals who simply desire to have their voices heard and that the vast majority do not want a change that is as risky and radical as what has been proposed in H.R. 3200, then it would be a genuine, grassroots rejection of the direction that the Democrat majority in Washington, D.C. wants for our country. 

Fortunately for grassroots movements, they do not need the media to play as idiological co-conspirators to be successful because there is always an election around the corner.  If the message of the town halls is not heard by the majority in D.C. and course is not altered, there is sure to be a change in 2010.  Thankfully our Congressman gets it.  Our newspaper on the other hand doesn’t seem to, and their tone deafness to the community has been losing subscriptions for years.

Congressman McCarthy, Health Care, Politics